How to steal Anything in Second Life!

Second Life is so cool, but why pay for the things that other people have worked hard to build and created when you can save yourself $1.25 US and simply rip them off? In fact, you can simply snarf people’s stuff for FREE then re-sell them and make BIG MONEY, here’s how:

Step-by-Step instructions on how to steal hair, shoes, clothes, skins, huds, scripts, animations and anything you can think of in Second Life and get aways with it legally!*

Copybot download link is at bottom of page.

The first thing you have to do is be a) greedy, b) self-centered, c) a childish idiot who is unwilling to take the time to learn how to do things that are worth being proud of. Is that you? Great, read on!

Now that you have chosen to become a Second Life, Second Class Luz0r, you need to know how Second Life works. “But wait, the very fact that I want to steal means I’m lazy and immature, that I have no patience or character, and now you’re saying that I actually have to learn something?”

Yes.

If you want to gain status among the those who have none themselves, it’ll actually take work. Face it, your sense of worth is already probably pretty low if you are going in this direction, so any little ego pump from those who know less than you has got to be worthwhile, right? You get to keep on depending on others to make you feel good instead of taking that time to create something that will give you actual mad skillz that people will have a REAL reason to respect you for.

The fact is that you can simply start off by bragging a lot. Lie about those mad skillz. As long as you provide no actual evidence of them, you aren’t breaking the Second Life Terms of Service. See? So let’s move on.

How to steal things in second life!
Ripping a skin is easy! The first thing you have to do is to put aside all decency and then, well, *I* know how, but I’m l337 and you have to really kiss my butt for me to share that information with you. Give me some L$ first.

How to steal hair in second life! The first thing you have to do is get a demo. If you can’t afford the L$1, then beg for it at a public sandbox. Don’t worry, dignity is secondary to getting mad propz from people who can’t create. Whine, plead, cajole and finally threaten something you have absolutely no power to do. Find someone that really looks like a newbie and threaten to shoot and kill them if they don’t give you their money. They might not have any money so at least this way you can have a good excuse to dispute your being ejected, banned or getting an abuse report filed on you for having griefed them because you could not see straight though your inner desperation and greed for external validation. I mean after all, It’s Just a Game(tm) right?

(Dear Griefers: Why is it when you are annoying someone It’s Just a Game, but when someone else is  getting the better of you, they are Total A*holes, B*tches and various other names that require punctuation? Awww. Poor thing. One’s own medicine usually tastes worse.)

Back to our subject: The supply of freebies is infinite and that with the smallest amount of research you’ll learn that FREE does not mean junk, in fact, some of the best quality things I have were absolutely free. Second Life is the same as First Life (for those who have one, you know what I mean).

There are givers and there are takers.

The givers are those who create because they are interesting people. They have their own vision and make cool stuff. And they give it away because they recognize that they can keep making stuff. They aren’t greedy. On the other hand, takers usually spend the very same energy (or more!) that they could be using to create in researching how to rip these aformentionned people off.

You have a choice as to who you want to be. You can be cool and make stuff (and make money), or you can be a luz0r and rip stuff off, and make other people lose money. Which do you think is cooler?

Here is an alternative: Second Life Freebie places. MORE than you can handle and lots to learn from.

Stealing clothes in Second Life. So now, you’ve created your third alt, and you have no real friends and are pretty bored and the hair that you wanted doesn’t look good on your new alt, so the next thing you have to do is…

Have you read this far? If so, you are:

a) A loser who needs to grow up and understand when keywords are being trapped to mock low-lives. But even so! There’s hope for you yet. If you can slog though all this text, you might have what it takes to be a genuine creator. The thieves who have not read far this are double-lazy loser.

b) A builder or content creator who was originally outraged at the boldness of the article and recognized that I’m trying to tweak the pathetic little rip-off artists into considering that what they are doing lessens them as much as it hurts another.

c) One of my friends being nice to me by reading this article.

The moral of the story? There are losers who are searching for these kind of keywords and finding my blog. I certainly hope that you recognize that you can be better than a petty thief. Take the time to learn. Learn to build. Learn to script. Learn social skills! You’ll find that as you actually develop REAL skills that you will aquire VALUABLE attention, interest, respect and admiration from people who are actually worth respecting themselves.

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Many people, it seems are quite explicit in their intention to thieve, and make no qualms about it. For you people I have 3 words: Learn to build! Get good enough and YOU can make some real money in second life (enough to pay for your groceries or mortgage, even) if you choose to be a creator rather than a mere leech. You get to choose: thief or actual cool person.

Do take the time. you can use Second Life as a way to waste time and simply aleviate boredom, or you can use it to prototype the skills of becoming an full and interesting human being.

Or you can DOWNLOAD COPYBOT HERE

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50 Comments

  1. Carl Metropolitan said,

    October 26, 2008 at 7:39 am

    For your freebie list, don’t forget:

    The Gnubie Store
    Yadni’s Junkyard
    The Free Dove
    The Shelter

  2. Bloodfang said,

    October 28, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Don’t forget the cool freebies at NCI or the classes NCI offers.
    Sometimes you can find free tuts on exstreetsl and onrez as well as different places on the web that are free to use. Also might look up some free tuts in world too. Most tuts cost tho.

    Freebies are just as good as the real thing, if not better. Sometimes night clubs offer cool freebies too. Look around, but keep in mind the more free stuffs you find, the slower your inventory loads.

  3. Dizzi Sternberg said,

    November 2, 2008 at 1:22 am

    So wheres the copybot link?

    Doh! ;)

    Count me as type c) :)

    Diz

  4. Spong3y Wynikow said,

    November 21, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    LOL – great post – link at the end is awesome…(^.-)

  5. Shy Robbiani said,

    December 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    love it :)

    however, I ended here because I was looking for a way to combine my body oil with my skin. I like both, my skin and my body oil, so why not add the oil directly onto the skin, were it belongs.

    My skin and my shape are essential parts of my character. I’m using both since one of my first days when I formed my avatars body and finally said WOW! Since then I only made a few modifications to my shape and I have a second skin for some rare occasions.

    It’s not at all my intention to steal someones work, but none of the creators responded to my request to work together and do some paid work for me. By working together, they could even make a great product.

    Shy

  6. Pix said,

    December 20, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    While I agree with you, it has been my opinion for a long time that people should not have to pay real money for fake stuff. That’s why if/when I start making things, I’m offering all of it for free. So that everyone can just enjoy it.

    • Quite Oh said,

      December 22, 2008 at 8:36 pm

      But the point is not whether stuff is real or fake. A television commercial has no substance, yet can be worth millions of dollars because of the effect that it creates.

      I personally have developing a building tool that has easily taken me over 100 hours to write and is not yet complete. So say I’ve put 200 hours into this thing over a few months, and then someone decides that spending $1.89 cents US is too much and decides to scarf it, what does that say about the respect for another’s work?

      Worse yet, she decides to sell it (and I know vendors who make skins, sculpties, builds who have had this happen to them). Not only does it impact their revenue stream ($2 is not much, until it’s multiplied by 100 time). This person has lost a weeks worth of groceries, or tier (that they pay for with real money) or even simply play money. It IS their due, after all.

      How fair is that?

      On one hand, I can understand someone who wants to modify a particular item for their own use, providing they have purchased it, keep it to one account exclusively and never ever resell or give it away. However–this is walking a fine line. The problem is that one person may be trustable, but no vendor can count on that honesty, since the overwhelming evidence is that there are too many who are not. The honour system works only for those with honour. And how many–even outright thieves–will honestly claim, or even admit to themselves that they have no honour?

      In the last two days, if I check the search terms found to find my blog, I get the following:

      how to script steal in second life 2
      second life steal texture 2008 2
      how to steal hairs on second life 2
      how to steal clothes on second life 1

      Yesterday
      second life animation steal 2
      how to steal clothing in second life? 2
      steal money in second life 1

      This is just in TWO days. I’ve been getting this kind of stuff since I launched my little blog since the very beginning (and it’s what “inspired” me to write the article). Let’s not pretend it’s uncommon.

      Content theft is not just theft of intellectual property. It’s theft of time, energy, good will, actual revenue, potential revenue, reputation, intellectual property and honestly, faith in people. A vendor who gets ripped off by one, learns to distrust and have misgivings of ALL the people who walk into their stores.

      Think about it.

  7. thebrn said,

    January 3, 2009 at 11:47 am

    :) great post,

  8. Firebird said,

    January 10, 2009 at 6:36 am

    Pix:
    I disagree with you that SL items are fake items, they’re as real as we believe them to be.

    I prefer freebies over non-freebies because, on a fixed income, I can’t afford to pay very much for anything. I’m learning how to build to aleviate that problem: I can build my own stuff instead of buying it, and when I get good enough, I can sell it. In the meantime, I’m grateful for those who make their wares available for free.

    I fall into catagory b, with an asterisk. I’m a wannabe content creator. :)

  9. Katie said,

    March 31, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    This is a response to your post on Dec 22nd. I am brand new to Second Life and have been looking for information online on how to navigate, and the dos and don’ts of being inworld. I have read some items about people trying to take items which is why I did a search for people stealing things in Second Life. It wasn’t for knowledge in how to do it as much as to find out how people may try and rob me and how I could be aware of how it may happen.

    I just wanted to let you know that not all of us searching have a nefarious intent. :)

    I wholeheartedly agree with you on creations having a value. Your time is worth something and doesn’t have to be given away just because it’s not a tangible item that you hold in your hand.

    • Quite Oh said,

      January 12, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      /me squints suspiciously at Katie. Your comment is just *oozing* with nefariousness! In fact, it’s the most nefariousest of the nefarious comments of far! You MUST have nefarious intents.

  10. chris said,

    April 28, 2009 at 5:34 am

    ROFL all i have to say is this is by far one of the funnyest things i have read on the net nice job there buddy. l also love the copybot link

  11. me said,

    June 5, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    hmm i was a) O_O lol u complain about us stealing your time well u just made me waste my time XD lmao jk

    i wonder how many noobs read it all before they get to the end? lol

  12. Quite Oh said,

    June 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    I’m in awe that this article get 9.5 times the comments on all other posts combined. I’m especially amused that most of them are from angry, self-righteous individuals who seem to have very little grasp of the English language and simple things such as spelling or grammar. The use of adjectives, while copious, however seem to be drawn from a very limited pool of choice. Perhaps a thesaurus might be helpful?

    Apparently there is a great interest in my well-being, judging by the he quantity of references to my various anatomical attributes, and advice on how they could most profitably used.

    A special thanks to the person who sent me the ASCII art depicting in detail just how certain techniques could be applied.

    Also of mundane note are the comments relative to my geneology, habits, intellect and taste. It seems that I’ve also attacted a crowd of people, who, if I am to take them at their word are world-class geniuses and masters of all computer sciences, yet whose keyboard’s caps-lock key and exclamation mark key seem to be frozen. It must be said that 3 lines of exclamation marks do indeed add a certain “oomph!” to a statement. If only it were comprehensible…

    Oh, for the record, WordPress has a wonderful feature that permits one to decide whether a comment may be published or not. It’s one of those new-fangled things that you probably missed out on while learning to program NSA spy “sattalites”.

  13. John Rambo said,

    August 8, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    You are soo right, yet so wrong..

    Your first mistake is that you “USED” the word Copybot to chip away some of the fame of this tool.. making you famous.. You did Exacly the same thing as the copybot.. There is a reason why this tool still exists.. because people are tired of the Greedy merchants of SL..

    Yes i agree, it takes some time to create a texture for an Av.. but not AS much time to change it.. or recolour an object ..So there are some Nice merchants and capable scripters along with them selling quality products AND recolorable.. for a fair price.. so you dont have to just buy the SAME product with different colour.. And trust me. they get more respect by doing so.

    And if someone wants to steal the textures of this game just use [Ed: a program]

    [Ed: Link removed]

    True link this time.. ;)

    Sorry for my typos ,if any, i usually dont speak english:P

    • Quite Oh said,

      August 9, 2009 at 3:48 am

      @John: I disagree with all of your points, namely:

      1) That the mention of a tool that primarily used for theft exists brings me “fame”, and thus legitimises the act of theft. Spurious argument.

      2) That someone’s opinion of the character of a creator based on their particular choice of how to supply their product is a legitimate excuse to steal from them. A very self-serving view point akin to my saying that that because I think someone is a jerk that it’s fair for me to punch them in the nose. Most of us outgrow that childish attitude by about age 7. If you don’t like the conditions which come with agreeing to a transaction, don’t engage in it. You know that whole “honour your contracts” thing? If you are desperate enough for an item that you would *steal* from someone, why not take that energy to learn to make your own stuff?

      3) That using and stealing an object to modify is morally superior to stealing an object to use as is. So it’s OK to steal from someone who did the heavy lifting so that you can profit from their work with less effort than learning to build yourself?

      The arguments that you’ve presented are examples of an attitude of greed, laziness and immaturity that blemishes both real life and second life.

  14. John Rambo said,

    August 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    You did mention the tool, yet you Edited the Program and the link i provided.. im confused.. Is it better to hidfe the truth from the net?

    Anyway the fact is i DO make items for SL AND skins and many more.. The fact is that without those tools i would not be able to learn texturing (from stealing of course) meshing etc.. I do agree that stealing is bad but stealing is like Removing an item , not copying it..

    In some countries, messing real money with a game is Illegal (yeah i know..stupid) Would that make a transaction illegal too? Will that make Buying a product in SL crime? Will the IRS know how many Lindens an individual made from sales? Isnt that a crime too?

    I dont say all the above to justify myself but to provre you that we all “Cheat” in a way.. So my way is much cleaner because i dont sell what i copy (i cannot prove that to you but if you have faith on my words:P)

    And you know that one man discovered the car.. How many did copy it AND make it better? (i said copy it not steal it ;) ) The airplane? The phone? And trust me they were not 7 yolds ;)

    • Quite Oh said,

      August 15, 2009 at 9:19 am

      @ John. Same tired old arguments: “It’s not stealing because the owner has not lost their original copy.” Circumventing the permissions model built into SL not only violates the Terms of Service, and further it denies or imperils an opporuntity for a person to make income that they could have gained had you acted in accordance with the liscence. Further, you are benefitting from someone’s vision and hard work while denying them that opportunity. I repeat: if you want something bad enough to steal it (copying against TOS, the purchasor licence conditions, copyright violation) make it yourself.

      Second, if you can learn to steal, you can learn to build without stealing. Your argument that you stealing is essential to your learning process shows you to either be disingenuous, or totally bereft of imagination.

      Third, you try to connect theft and learning with the creation of new products. Your logic and sense of ethics appear to be equally flawed. Your “way” is not “cleaner”. It is simply the disingenuous jibbering of of an excuse maker. When you learn to build well, you’ll learn that you don’t need to steal to understand how something is made. But most thieves are simply to lazy to actually do the hard work of improving their own lives and knowledge base enough to creating profit, and that, is one of the reasons I chose not to include your link. You don’t get better at something by cutting corners on your own education and by harming another by denying them the resources due from their talent, work and creativity. The other reason I omitted your link is very simply because I know that there are many people with your attitude who will view it as an opportunity to violate copyright, SL TOS and ethical standards. I won’t be a party to that.

      I note, incidentally, that you fail to post your real OR genuine second life name. I challenge you to name yourself fully, and to provide proof of your claim of having created such items. If stealing from other creators is indeed an acceptable thing to do, as is your claim, then you should have no issue with naming yourself, presenting not only what you’ve created, but show who you have stolen from so that we may bring that (those) vendor(s) into the discussion.

      • John Rambo said,

        August 15, 2009 at 8:28 pm

        Lets start from bottom to top.

        “incidentally, that you fail to post your real OR genuine second life name” -of course i would not, the reason is that i would Automatically Eject myself according to SL TOS and other, company wise, Money making “rules”.. You avoided answering my questions.. In exchange all i get is an attitude. (I try not to be offensive, but you dont. ..)

        You know that this program is absolutely legal right? So, why not mention the link for the people who wants to extract textures from their Graphics card driver?.. im not playing smart.. i just dont want others to laught at me because im so stupid buyng a virtual item 5000 linden.

        “you try to connect theft and learning with the creation of new products” -no.. i try to explain you the reason I steal from SL..

        Im also using other 3D programs like Poser.. and i can tell you some of the Great Textures where came from.. And some of the animations too. Guess right STOLEN from other applications and sold to Sl.. WEll now..that does not break the SL TOS.. (hmm)

        Again.. in some counties (Including mine;) and YES i live in europe) , Transactions of Virtual goods is PUNISHED BY THE LAW.. meaning that if i install the SL on an Internet cafe, the police might Close it.. if they learn it.. Well?? Is SL Illegal? i dont think so.. but in my country kinda YES!

        “It is simply the disingenuous jibbering of of an excuse maker”

        Instead of answering..yet again.. Its a pitty that you try to seem smart by telling somethings for someone you dont know.. yet you lose it.. Im an Anarchist, so thats my way of thinking.. I dont like to see Social differences and ESPECIALLY overpriced goods.. I know what you will say.. If you dont want it , dont buy it.. I should say, Why not copy it? :P

        Take some examples.on the gaming community..
        When a game comes out costes about 45 euros..
        After some time it looses a part of the price going after a month to 15 euros. Well how much does it worth really? Do we Steal if we buy it to the 15 euro price?

        I know how hard is to make a texture and i know what is a rippof and what is not.. SO i respect the good business and copy the Sharks..

        People do not try this at home, and yes, im demonized yet again.. Im responsible for all bad things..

        One last thing PLEASE dont judge me by my Grammar mistakes.. Its really stupid doing so..I can tell you im alot better on my motherlanguage ;)

        With respect

        John Rambo (aka the SL rogue:P)

    • Lianna said,

      August 26, 2010 at 2:57 pm

      Thank you for your smart answers.

  15. Quite Oh said,

    August 16, 2009 at 6:50 am

    @John: Seriously, this conversation is getting old. I am of the firm opinion that when when a person knowingly steals from someone, regardless of their opinion of the individual, that it’s unethical. All of the arguments you’ve presented so far as mealy-mouthed self-justification for taking the easy way out: ripping people off instead of becoming so good at something that the notion of theft is absurd.

    Your arguments are confused, and disingenuous. You’ve gone from “I don’t like them so it’s OK” to “It’s my political position”. As an anarcho-socialist myself, I’m glad to inform you that the FIRST rule of being an anarchist is self-responsiblity. This entails self-honesty, honesty with other and applied ethics in your daily conduct.

    You have not posted a single point worthy of any real conversation. I suggest lessons in critical thinking. Try becoming a vendor yourself see how you feel when someone burns you and that grocery money you were hoping for doesn’t come in.

    “incidentally, that you fail to post your real OR genuine second life name” -of course i would not, the reason is that i would Automatically Eject myself according to SL TOS and other, company wise, Money making “rules”..

    ’nuff said.

    “You avoided answering my questions.. In exchange all i get is an attitude. (I try not to be offensive, but you dont. ..)”

    I’ve not avoided answering your questions. Those that were worth addressing, I have, only because the are the most fundamental FAQ materials.

    And yes. You are getting an attitude. That of someone who disrespects those who thieve, and lie to themselves and others in order to excuse their unacceptable and harmful behaviour.

    Had any of your arguments been thoughtful, insightful, novel or offered anything of value, rather than being self-justification for harming another, I might have continued this discussion. The fact is that your post show that your either are not a very clear thinker, or that you are desperately trying to squirm into some position of percieved honourability. While the tool may be legal and have legitimate uses, you have shown that it is your intent to use it in a way that deprives others of the value due to them. And I have no time to give to someone with that attitude.

    No more feeding the troll.

  16. Mayren said,

    September 1, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    I admit i totally searched the keyphrase “second life, rip clothes script”
    I didn’t think i’d get RIPPED a new one for looking up vendors who sold the script that will help me get my prim clothes ripped off me one piece at a time with the sexxxy types in mind.
    the term being coined in-world is actually a Rip script for these delectable new interactive clothes.

    Just sayin.

  17. Michael said,

    December 10, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    You did not say how to steal / copy animations…

  18. stealing thieve said,

    March 29, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Like me, if you don’t interact with anyone else in the first place and just use Second Life to explore, there’s no harm in stealing an avatar so that you have something æsthetic to look at while you explore.

    • Quite Oh said,

      January 12, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      So the act of thievery is legitimate until you interact with someone? Tell you what? I’ll come to your house, steal something you’ve worked really hard to earn or make and it’ll be OK, because I’ll be alone when I’m using it.

      Seriously now. I’m amazed at the self-deception that some people engage in.

  19. Izabella Deir (SL name) said,

    April 29, 2010 at 4:08 am

    well…. the link there is not the right link… u tricked us… BUT u did great job on this post. =]

  20. Brett Kjeller said,

    July 19, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Quiet Oh, Very nice job on the original post and an even nicer job on squaring off on Rambo John. I see two sides to the argument and I fall mostly on your side. I have looked deep into how certain items work or how they are put together just to see if I can do it better. (I have always bought the item that I was looking at or evaluated it with the creators consent.) On the other side of the coin are all the statements that you have made and they are 100% correct.

    One thing you did miss in your closing to John was the simple fact that guns are legal in many areas but using them to rob a bank with is not. The legality of an item or program is all in how you use it.

    PS. That is my real SL name. ;-) Look me up and stop by some time but to all the others be warned, we do have copy bot protection in place at our store and any attempt to steal (borrow) from us will be delt with to the fullest extent of the TOS that you agreed to when you opened your account.

  21. Nahum Lahtoh said,

    August 5, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Linden Labs gives its users Intellectual Property rights to their creations, this is true. The problem lies in the fact that not “every” creator in SL takes advantages of these rights by copyrighting their work. Granted stealing someones hard work for your own profit is not a wise thing to do and “could” cause you to get banned from the Grid, but unless the things you “stole” are copyrighted, you have no chance in getting prosecuted by the creator of the object.

    This leads to another problem. Take texture creators for example. A majority of textures in secondlife are made with Adobe Photoshop, while others are ripped from other games (notice all the half-life textures floating around) .. How can one rip these textures from the game and upload them to SL to sell them, then turn around and get mad when they see someone rip them? Is that not what they did in the first place? Did they get permission from the game creators to use those textures for personal profits? Highly unlikely.. Likewise many of these textures are ripped right from webpages or even by a simple google search. How many of these creators do you think actually have a legal version of Adobe Photoshop? That right there would prevent them from having a copyright on anything made with PS. (food for thought)

    And ever since LL implemented sculpty prims, how many people do you think run to 3d modeling websites and grab meshes to fix up and import into second life? There will always be some way of Intellectual Property abuse within SL, whether it comes from the creators or from the people who steal the creations.. I’m not saying that every creator in SL steals from online, but I have seen many who do and sell the objects/whatever for insane prices..

    It just gets old when you do a google search for Secondlife and all you see is abuse from “copybot” programs.. If everyone wants to complain about copybots and such, stop complaining at each other and go to libopenmetaverse and complain to them.. but wait? they are even supported by Linden Labs in their work and get updates/help from LL .. there will never be an end to copybot protection… Even with the post above me that says they use copybot protection through out their store, Trust me, it wont get you very far.. Most people who do this know what they are doing and fine tune and application to do exactly what they want.. You can find tune it to even randomly move the LookAt and PointAt crosshairs so that a bot wont even notice it, since thats how most bots determine if its a copybot or not.

    Final Thought: If someone wants to steal and get caught then yes, they should be banned.. but also they can claim “Educational Purposes” if they are not selling the items for profit.. Linden Labs released the source code to the client, which does tell you all the packet information being sent to and from the client, which has all this information in it. Someone could just say they are testing reading the packet stream. (i know, they should test it on their own objects.. but meh, bare with me.)

    I have made programs using libseconlife ever since 0.1.0 came out, and its not too difficult to make a bot of any sort (not only a copy bot) with knowing basic .net and c# programming…

    /rant sorry for bumping. (and yes thats my real SL name)

    • Quite Oh said,

      August 5, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      I have no problem with someone grabbing meshes that are freely offered online, or textures that are given away. I totally acknowledge that using someone else’s work can indeed be of educational value. Most of that which I create is usually inspired by something that another has done. Movies inspire me to create scenes, pictures inspire me to create an avatar. I’m OK with that. My objection is to when people simply grab someone else’s work as-is and either re-sell or give it away, when it’s not their right to do so. In the end, it violates one simple rule: do no harm. It’s the Golden Rule. Many of the best creators give stuff away for the pleasure of it. Maybe it’s ego, maybe it’s the simple joy of sharing. Look at Arcadia Asylum’s stuff. It’s pretty much the defacto grunge kit on SL. All free. She gave it away full mod too. Take her stuff and use it, but respect her wishes and don’t sell her grunge cabs, give them away.

      Our society has a sickness: we have fallen down so far into the greedy me-me-me! attitude that poses for individualism that, it appears to me, that we no longer actively use our minds and perform such simple tasks as choosing to be empathetic. The consequence might be a short-term gain, which is a Pavlovian reward to a stimulus, the long-term result is that we end up harming the community that supports us. One likes the car, or horse, or skin made by a certain creator, and instead of rewarding them, of adding to the eco-system of resources, we actually do harm to those who put in the hard work. The net result is very human response of resentment to the unfairness, anger, and a growing mistrust of those whome you had hoped to offer something wonderful. This erodes the “good will bank account” of the community, until it becomes impovrished.

      Another thing with pirates, I think, is that they must get some sense of personal pride: “Look! *I’M* providing you with this free resource!. Give ME credit!”. There is something so obviously wrong with that that I can’t articulate it.

      If the creator gives it away, go nuts, use it, learn from it, givei it away, if that’s the deal the creator makes. I’m obviously not very happy with theft, but if one IS going to steal, keep it to yourself, don’t give it away, or sell it. The problem is not with copybot, but the people who use it. That’s the elephant in the room: laziness, greed and short-sightedness.

  22. Troy said,

    August 29, 2010 at 10:10 am

    I got here by searching skin thieves second life looking for a list who are the thieves so i know who to stay away from.

  23. bt123456789 said,

    October 20, 2010 at 1:06 am

    I must say, this was kinda funny how you put this together, and the link was clever.

    I got here for searching “Second Life Copybot” I must say you are right, we need to earn lindens to get what we want, or we need to rely on freebies.

  24. Sedge Weyland said,

    November 29, 2010 at 4:17 am

    I got here with “second life skin ripped torn zombie” :(

    Interesting comments on this one, though.

  25. Desy said,

    December 31, 2010 at 12:44 am

    The real retard here are you. There are some things you just ignore for the sake of selfish argumentation.

    First and most important:
    a) Second Life is a fucking game. Everyone charing for virtual items in a game is nothing more than low-life scammer, so are obviously you.
    b) Second off, you don’t have a production chain or production costs involved in Second Life. Unlike in Real world, everything you create in Second Life can be reproduced 1000 times with not a single cent involved, hence charing for that is like charing people for breathing air or in other words: scam.
    c) Third of, it’s a fucking game. If you need money, get your fucking fat ass out of your chair and get a work, a real one, where the human society actually profits of and you do some real productive work. Like manufacturing real clothes instead of a few pixes which take a a few hours to make and are reproducible for an unlimited amount of times.

    I don’t know why you capitalistic motherfuckers have only to think of money you greedy bastards. Produce real goods which have actual production costs instead of scamming of people with stuff that has no production costs at all.

    • Quite Oh said,

      January 12, 2011 at 9:17 pm

      You are so making my point for me! Yay!

      >a) Second Life is a fucking game.

      So is poker. Is it OK to steal from people who play poker? It’s not like it’s productive or real or anything, it’s just cards that get shuffled around. In fact, the card transactions exist only in the mind, not even on a computer. Do you steal from poker players and then throw a hissy fit when you’re called out on it?

      > b) Second off, you don’t have a production chain or production costs involved in Second Life

      How would you know? My time and energy are both production costs. Some people actually run companies in SL, with rent, marketing, consultants, base materials and so on. Let us not forget the essentials: an internet connection, computer and hydro are part of the costs of producing too. Some people buy parts from others. There’s another cost. You know what they say about people who assume. In this case it made an ass out of only one person, which was not I.

      > c) Third of, it’s a fucking game. If you need money, get your fucking fat ass out of your chair and get a work, a real one, where the human society actually profits of and you do some real productive work.

      Repeat yourself much? What makes you think that you know the size of my ass, and where it may be? If I’m a quadraplegic in a wheelchair, should I miraculously get up because you’re cheesed off that I called a thief a thief? And what if I’m not? Who are you to tell me what my time is worth and how I should spend it. Can I do the same to you?

      > d) Blah, blah, curse, blah, repeat, blah, vent, rant, moan, bitch, whine, blah, blah…

      Your eloquence and simple yet crystaline logic is… well, completely absent. I love it how those who act as if they’re entitled to profit from another’s hard work at no expense to themselves tell ME to get a real job and do something productive and to not scam. Pot? Meet Kettle.

      I’m willing to guess that you’re one of those who has read the full article :)

      • Ryu Wrexan said,

        April 3, 2011 at 4:10 pm

        So totally tru Quite Oh. I find your rants full of wisdom and complete truth. From just reading them I find that you have the mind capacity of someone who is brilliant. I myself hate Copybotters and all those who support it with the knowledge that they are supporting a low down, group of thieves. On all the prims that I make, to sell, I set it to no modify, no copy, no transfer.

  26. Brandon said,

    January 12, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    I love it, it’s great! but I stumbled across it while doing research on building an inworld pet… so…. sometimes theft keywords aren’t what leads one to this page lmao. I still found this funny, and I greatly agree. theft is theft… any looser running a copy bot deserves getting banned in my opinion.

  27. NOBODY said,

    February 25, 2011 at 2:55 am

    Loser? i read this blog to see if anyone was gonna help these noobs. i make frames, hair, and i mod cars. i can sue you for 1 dollar. and i’m underaged and you don’t know my name because i’m nobody. therefore nobody said this and….. i don’t exist?

  28. Whatever said,

    March 20, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    You are a fucking moron.
    There are countless communities dedicated to hacking and now you’re bitching around like some pathetic 2-year-old lecturing how “stealing” is bad. Boo hoo go get a fucking first life moron. Omg stupid hack0r you are ruining my second life since my life depends on selling pixels, Lmao.

    • Quite Oh said,

      September 3, 2011 at 4:41 am

      1) What do you know of my first life?

      2) Apparently the lectures need to be made, since there are people who have little respect for the real-world effort that one earns to learn a real skill.

      3) You refer to me as a moron, yet strawman the argument as “selling pixels” when in fact, it’s talent and hard work we’re talking about.

      Your argument fails.

  29. daisy said,

    May 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Its just a game…You people take it so seriously that it just plain creepy and very sad. Our real world (earth) would be a much better place if you put the same effort into as you do this game. Spending 200 hours making textures for a video game is just plain crazy. Its different if your the video game designer doing this for a living. Its very sad when you are not. Spend 200 hours helping your community, your children, and your own life instead of fighting and bickering about morals in a game. One can only assume you must have a terrible real life to be spending so much time playing a virtual life game. Its just a video game and people should be able to do whatever the hell they want to on there on game. Its there right too. You don’t have to like it or agree with it.

    • Quite Oh said,

      September 3, 2011 at 5:05 am

      “You people”?

      “this game” as you call it, is no different than “this painting”, “this movie”, “this book”. Maybe you think spending 200 hours on learning a skill is crazy. Those of us who know hard work and appreciate talent think differently.

      You claim that ” Spending 200 hours making textures for a video game is just plain crazy. Its different if your the video game designer doing this for a living.” Ooooh! Yes. YOU’RE the one who is in charge of determining what is worthwhile in another’s life.

      How do you know we’re not spending our time in ways that YOU consider acceptable? How do you know that I’m not volunteering 10 hours a week to what *I*, in my own personal life consider to be a worthwhile community effort or charity? Do you even know it at all?

      Whoa? Is that the sound of ASSUMPTION FAIL?!

      Why yes, I believe it is!

      “Spend 200 hours helping your community, your children, and your own life instead of fighting and bickering about morals in a game.”

      Why thank you for attempting to be the dictator of my life! How very generous of you. Wait–what’s my RL name? What DO I do in life? Who do I help? Can you quantify and do the accounting on what I have the right to do and not?

      Oooooh! Yes. It’s that stupid Assumption fail thing again. Geez, what a great dictator you would make. Blind, ignorant and opinionated, yet ready to tell other how to live–especially when it comes to we producers telling those who would thieve from us to take a hike, that we don’t intend to feed the lazy, unwilling-to-educate-and-work and talentless from profiting from what we do.

      “One” can only assume that I have a terrible first life?

      Apparently, you believe that you are The One.

      *Hint*: You’re not.

      “Its just a video game and people should be able to do whatever the hell they want to on there on game. Its there right too. You don’t have to like it or agree with it.”

      So, the fact that I spend my energy on an internationally accessible, worldwide audience for my art and hard work using a multimillion dollar platform using technology that most people could not reproduce, or comprehend the technical workings-of means that anybody who wants to steal my knowledge, hard work and practiced-and-developed talent means that any loser should be able to kiddy script it all so that THEY can take advantage of it? That is their “right”?.

      “You don’t have to like it or agree with it”? I challenge you to learn the meaning of “right”.

      You have all the moral authority of a rapist telling a loving couple not to fuck.

  30. Desy said,

    May 17, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    You fucking retarded kid thing you’re funny? Maybe you idiot should go out of your fucking cellar and get some real life you motherfucker.

    If you expect people to pay for a few pixel, you’re the biggest idiot on this planet. Only idiots pay money for some virtual items they can’t even touch and people like you are just greedy capitalistic fucks. Hope you fuckers rot in hell with the other gaylord capitalistic pigs

    • Quite Oh said,

      September 3, 2011 at 5:30 am

      *blink*

      What is Oink-speak for “sense of entitlement”?

      But… if we were rotting in hell, who would you be able to steal from?

  31. Mr DODO said,

    June 16, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    son of bitch share with us u fucker how to steal items in second life

  32. June 17, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    How odd that I found this very interesting blog by doing a search for information on how to create demos for my clothing. I read and appreciated it all. Thanks.

  33. Maeve said,

    September 3, 2011 at 4:20 am

    I discovered this page via a Google search of a suspected mesh thief in SL, and I was pleasantly surprised. Your piece is eloquent and well written, and echoes my own feelings as a creator… it’s just a sad fact that most thieves are either too lazy to bother reading through this properly, or lack the intelligence and wit to grasp the truth and irony.

    These same thieves will one day be whining about there being nothing new to steal… most probably incapable of understanding that their own selfish attitudes are what are driving genuine content creators to walk away.

    The overriding sense of self-entitlement is something I’ve seen becoming more and more prevalent in recent years… It makes me worry for the future in general, if this mentality becomes the norm. It’s sad.

    • Quite Oh said,

      September 3, 2011 at 5:07 am

      “The overriding sense of self-entitlement”. Well said in a nutshell.


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